Life is Wonderfull
"It all good"- I have been really busy with everything around here,wife is really good,job is really good,my children are all good,life is good.
I had a tour of a maximun prison the other day,with some other men from up state we had a chance to talk with the chaplian,warden and some security officers,about Kairos prison ministry we had a very good meeting-this prison is a powder keg-it had a 80 man riot a couple of months ago when it was all over 13 shanks were found and the the whole prison went on lock down for 3 month-which mean 24-7 in there cell, some that i saw were 4 by 8 with 2 per cell-i pray that someday we will be able to go in there some day"were sin abounds grace abounds more".I cant descibe the feeling that i have when i am in there during a weekend of kairos-we just express Gods Love, and share its not but the grace of God we could be in there with them.The chaplain has this message up in his room "Choices not chances is were your future is" and am glad that i have made the choices that i have made some not to proud of but for the most part i am ok,i am thankful for the parent that i were given and also the awesome brothers and sisters that help mold me into the awesome man that I am today.
I had a tour of a maximun prison the other day,with some other men from up state we had a chance to talk with the chaplian,warden and some security officers,about Kairos prison ministry we had a very good meeting-this prison is a powder keg-it had a 80 man riot a couple of months ago when it was all over 13 shanks were found and the the whole prison went on lock down for 3 month-which mean 24-7 in there cell, some that i saw were 4 by 8 with 2 per cell-i pray that someday we will be able to go in there some day"were sin abounds grace abounds more".I cant descibe the feeling that i have when i am in there during a weekend of kairos-we just express Gods Love, and share its not but the grace of God we could be in there with them.The chaplain has this message up in his room "Choices not chances is were your future is" and am glad that i have made the choices that i have made some not to proud of but for the most part i am ok,i am thankful for the parent that i were given and also the awesome brothers and sisters that help mold me into the awesome man that I am today.
posted by autotuner1 | 7:18 PM
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You are still alive, amazing. God's grace has nothing to do with people being in jail. Most people choose to be there. You break the law, you end up in jail. Simple. What have you been doing? Been in jail?
What brothers, and sisters molded you? If I remember right you knew everthing growing up. I do not rememeber you accepting much advice from anybody. OOO that's right you were adopted, it was the other brothers and sisters that help mold you. PTL. OOO Happy Day.
AT1 - isn't it sad that some people cannot move past their past and accept what has happened and come to the realization that there is a God (that has created an ever-expanding universe) that has a wonderful plan for their life. You can't have joy without knowing pain first - there is no happiness without saddness. The joy of life is in the journey, (walking beside the One who knows the way - in fact, He is the Way.) - not the destination. - even though the destination will be incredible.
Of course, these are general comments directed at no one specifically.
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So the women that get raped ( it's like one every 2 or 3 seconds in the world ) this is God's way so that they can understand happiness. Great plan.
Wow, were do i start,well 1st i was referencing roman 5-20 were paul is talking about the law and how it points to sin but he says how much more grace abounds, also with someone that has alot of sin in there life Gods grace is always there to cover it and with in talking with the guys in prison that is good news to them because they dont really have a good opinion about themselves.I have had conversation with some of them and they have stated that they realize it has taking every thing that has happened to them to bring them to this place of understanding about Gods love and have said they wouldnt change anything about there life-an x death row inmate told me.
When i would go to Porsche school at the beginning of first day of school the instructor would give us a test- he used it to tell him were he needed to start with us, i think that is needed with you so i can know were you are in this spiritual journey- 1)-do you believe God created you?2)do you believe the bible 3)are you an athiest 4)are you agnostic-
I have memory of you listen to your music Boston,BTO,the wings,Chicago etc all coming from your room and feeling a certain fondness of those groups because my big brother likes those-and the way you used to talk about believing in positive confession" thats my Z28 up there at Milam Cars" and sure enough you were driving it later.I feel that all my brothers and sisters effected me some way or another-
I am glad that everything is good for you(Auto Tuner).
Inca, you gonna to answer the questions or sidestep the issue again?
God allows things to happen - you know, man's free choice. He can take horrible situations and bring good things out of it. Again, I reference mom and dad's divorce - I hate it - it tore the family apart- but God used a terrible situation and taught me some incredible life lessons. I have been able to talk to countless teenagers and adults, going through divorces, and tell them from the inside what can, will, might happen. Teens don't have to rebell and blame God. I don't blame God -don't understand everything, but I do know that He took something bad and made good in my life - because I allowed Him to I remained having a teachable spirit.
If God has given me free choice, then I choose not to play this game. I choose to cease to exist as an entity when I die. That is my free choice.
What autotuner1 and janzfamily don't get is that coming to the realization that we have come to is not based on any pain we experienced. They are making incredible assumptions about our lives and what we have believed simply because we have reached a point of no longer being able to accept fantasy for truth. When one explores human history, when one discovers the various creation stories, god stories, virgin birth stories that predated the Christian one, when one discovers the evidence (or non-evidence) for those characters that appear in the Bible, etc., etc., one comes to the conclusion that mankind will believe anything in his quest for purpose, in his need to know why, in his cry of "why are things the way they are and who am I?"
That is not to say that there aren't some truths to be found in any of those stories. They're parables to help us understand ourselves and our place in creation.
So the preaching can stop any time. We've heard it all before and there isn't anything that can be said that can turn back the clock to the days when we believed just as D & D do. If there is a God, if he's anything like Baptists think he is, then the better thing to do would be to pray that he reach us where we are in a way that would show us where we made a wrong turn-if we did. It isn't as though we don't want to believe in him anymore. Some days I long to have that faith I once had. It's just not there. Not a faith in the God of the Bible, that is. I do believe there is SOMETHING, though. I still pray and talk to whatever is out there as though it were God because I do have faith that I can be led to understanding. So I guess that answers at1's question, at least for my part. I'm agnostic. I can't speak for IncaRunner.
If you are right - nothing/something out there - what happens when you die?
Do you just die and end up in the ground six-feet under and let the bugs eat you?
If you are wrong - and there is a God and you have not chosen Him, then you spend and eternity in eternal hell separated from Him.
Are you willing to 'gamble' the rest of your existence on what you know?
If I am wrong, and there is nothing out there after death, have I lost anything - the answer is a resounding 'no.'
MM I used to suscribe to that belief system or paradigm, I thought that I would lose nothing, but I was wrong.
Does man have free choice? to choose his destiny?
About the Bible:
There is no archeological evidence or written record of Joseph in any Eygptain records. No record of Moses leading a rebellion, the evidence that David existed is scant, and the stone tablet is missing letters so it is hard to alude that is makes a case for the "House of David." It can mean a number of things. I always thought this was all fact until I started studing and reading ancient history.
I am reading a book now about how the bible was written, and the Bible is true in one aspect. The Bible was written from the prospective of how ancient man interpreted life. It was their explanation of why the world was the way it was.
What is in the anceint records? The short story. Some Canannites immigrated to Eygpt and in the mean time the people that were in the land left set up shop along the coast of the Meditrranean, they then became the Phoenicians, so when the Cannanites came back from Eygpt they settle in the hills like the Bible says because the land was vancant. These Cananites then became Isreal. If what I have read is wrong tell me were it is wrong, give me facts.
I was always told / preached that when the Rabbis copyed the Old Testement that they sooooo careful and if they messed up, they would start over again. Anyways I read a article by archeologist that refuted this supposition, and he gave proof( it was long time ago I read this so I do not remember what the proof was) that when the Torah did not make sense the Rabbis made it make sense.
And where are you gettng your info from - the same people that say life doesn't begin at conception and that we evolved from some cosmic ooze??
Ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
There is more physical evidence supporting the Bible than there is supporting the Declaration of Independence.
What you are talking about with the Rabbi's is the Talmud and the Mishnah. It was their commentary on the Law. They made up over 500 rules to 'guard' against breaking the Law. Trying to build a fence around the Law. This is what Jesus was always confronting the Pharisees about.
There are liberal, religious writers and scholars that try to disprove the Bible and they have there evidence.There are some preachers on TV that don't believe inthe virgin birth of Jesus.
There are conservative, evangelical writers and scholars proving just the opposite. I guess it comes down to who or what you are going to believe.
I can find the conservative scholars that can and would refute everything that you are reading.
The historical accuracy of the Scriptures is likewise in a class by itself, far superior to the written records of Egypt, Assyria, and other early nations. Archeological confirmations of the Biblical record have been almost innumerable in the last century. Dr. Nelson Glueck, probably the greatest modern authority on Israeli archeology, has said:
"No archeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical descriptions has often led to amazing discoveries."
The most documented Biblical event is the world-wide flood described in Genesis 6-9. A number of Babylonian documents have been discovered which describe the same flood.
Ancient tablet listing the Sumerian kings The Sumerian King List, for example, lists kings who reigned for long periods of time. Then a great flood came. Following the flood, Sumerian kings ruled for much shorter periods of time. This is the same pattern found in the Bible. Men had long life spans before the flood and shorter life spans after the flood. The 11th tablet of the Gilgamesh Epic speaks of an ark, animals taken on the ark, birds sent out during the course of the flood, the ark landing on a mountain, and a sacrifice offered after the ark landed.
The Story of Adapa tells of a test for immortality involving food, similar to the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
Sumerian tablets record the confusion of language as we have in the Biblical account of the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:1-9). There was a golden age when all mankind spoke the same language. Speech was then confused by the god Enki, lord of wisdom. The Babylonians had a similar account in which the gods destroyed a temple tower and "scattered them abroad and made strange their speech."
Other examples of extra-Biblical confirmation of Biblical events:
* Campaign into Israel by Pharaoh Shishak (1 Kings 14:25-26), recorded on the walls of the Temple of Amun in Thebes, Egypt.
* Revolt of Moab against Israel (2 Kings 1:1; 3:4-27), recorded on the Mesha Inscription.
* Fall of Samaria (2 Kings 17:3-6, 24; 18:9-11) to Sargon II, king of Assyria, as recorded on his palace walls.
* Defeat of Ashdod by Sargon II (Isaiah 20:1), as recorded on his palace walls.
* Campaign of the Assyrian king Sennacherib against Judah (2 Kings 18:13-16), as recorded on the Taylor Prism.
* Siege of Lachish by Sennacherib (2 Kings 18:14, 17), as recorded on the Lachish reliefs.
* Assassination of Sennacherib by his own sons (2 Kings 19:37), as recorded in the annals of his son Esarhaddon.
* Fall of Nineveh as predicted by the prophets Nahum and Zephaniah (2:13-15), recorded on the Tablet of Nabopolasar.
* Fall of Jerusalem to Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon (2 Kings 24:10-14), as recorded in the Babylonian Chronicles.
* Captivity of Jehoiachin, king of Judah, in Babylon (2 Kings 24:15-16), as recorded on the Babylonian Ration Records.
* Fall of Babylon to the Medes and Persians (Daniel 5:30-31), as recorded on the Cyrus Cylinder.
* Freeing of captives in Babylon by Cyrus the Great (Ezra 1:1-4; 6:3-4), as recorded on the Cyrus Cylinder.
* The existence of Jesus Christ as recorded by Josephus, Suetonius, Thallus, Pliny the Younger, the Talmud, and Lucian.
* Forcing Jews to leave Rome during the reign of Claudius (A.D. 41-54) (Acts 18:2), as recorded by Suetonius.
Over the years there have been many criticisms leveled against the Bible concerning its historical reliability. These criticisms are usually based on a lack of evidence from outside sources to confirm the Biblical record. Since the Bible is a religious book, many scholars take the position that it is biased and cannot be trusted unless we have corroborating evidence from extra-Biblical sources. In other words, the Bible is guilty until proven innocent, and a lack of outside evidence places the Biblical account in doubt.
This standard is far different from that applied to other ancient documents, even though many, if not most, have a religious element. They are considered to be accurate, unless there is evidence to show that they are not. Although it is not possible to verify every incident in the Bible, the discoveries of archaeology since the mid 1800s have demonstrated the reliability and plausibility of the Bible narrative. Here are some examples.
* The discovery of the Ebla archive in northern Syria in the 1970s has shown the Biblical writings concerning the Patriarchs to be viable. Documents written on clay tablets from around 2300 B.C. demonstrate that personal and place names in the Patriarchal accounts are genuine. The name "Canaan" was in use in Ebla, a name critics once said was not used at that time and was used incorrectly in the early chapters of the Bible. The word "tehom" ("the deep") in Genesis 1:2 was said to be a late word demonstrating the late writing of the creation story. "Tehom" was part of the vocabulary at Ebla, in use some 800 years before Moses. Ancient customs reflected in the stories of the Patriarchs have also been found in clay tablets from Nuzi and Mari.
* The Hittites were once thought to be a Biblical legend, until their capital and records were discovered at Bogazkoy, Turkey. Many thought the Biblical references to Solomon's wealth were greatly exaggerated. Recovered records from the past show that wealth in antiquity was concentrated with the king and Solomon's prosperity was entirely feasible. It was once claimed there was no Assyrian king named Sargon as recorded in Isaiah 20:1, because this name was not known in any other record. Then, Sargon's palace was discovered in Khorsabad, Iraq. The very event mentioned in Isaiah 20, his capture of Ashdod, was recorded on the palace walls. What is more, fragments of a stela memorializing the victory were found at Ashdod itself.
* Another king who was in doubt was Belshazzar, king of Babylon, named in Daniel 5. The last king of Babylon was Nabonidus according to recorded history. Tablets were found showing that Belshazzar was Nabonidus' son who served as coregent in Babylon. Thus, Belshazzar could offer to make Daniel "third highest ruler in the kingdom" (Dan. 5:16) for reading the handwriting on the wall, the highest available position. Here we see the "eye-witness" nature of the Biblical record, as is so often brought out by the discoveries of archaeology.
Info taken from www.christian answers.net
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Well, I read anything that you copy and pasted and I did not see anything that refuted what I said. I stated specific points, all you did is copy and paste munbo jumbo nothing that anwsered my statements. I know what I believe, and why I believe it.
I was talking and writing at the same time. I meant to say that I read everything that you copied and pasted.
You know what you believe - but what know and believe -is it true?
It looks like to me you are knowing and believing a bunch of left-wing, liberal religious scholars that don't have a leg to stand on.
Years ago, all the evidence pointed to and people 'knew and believed' that the earth was the center of the universe.
MM you have said nothing to change my mind. You have no evidence to refute what I wrote. All you did was find some web site -- I am not sure what your point was. You seem to have no orginal thought. From everything I have read ( history and how the Bible was wrote) the Bible is a collection history and myth. The Bible does not explain the world, or why the world is the way it is. At the end of Job, there is no answer for the status of the world and the injustices that have prevailed through out history of the world. If God is real how could He let so many people be killed, murdered in His name???? Answer this question!!!!
I may not have all the answers, but I am happy. I am not here to aruge (maybe aruge) but not to create conflict with you or Auto Tuner. I do not know your guys, and that was why I started blogging with you guys to get to know my brothers.
Where are you??
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